wanderingbishop
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Post by wanderingbishop on May 29, 2013 4:45:04 GMT
Agatha's habitual sleep-sparking saves the day again. Well, to a certain value of "save". And a certain definition of "day".
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cjvr
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Post by cjvr on May 29, 2013 9:34:38 GMT
I wonder how many knives and deathrays are concealed in that hand.
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andyab1000
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Post by andyab1000 on May 29, 2013 10:18:44 GMT
Yop! She sleep-sparked again. If the hand has weapons, it may prove useful. Tweedle is protecting Agatha. At this time, they both need each other, whether they like it or not.
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tiffanyhm
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Post by tiffanyhm on May 29, 2013 13:43:49 GMT
I hate this page, and this story line. IF she was sleep sparking why didn't she just kill him and escape? There's no way she should work with him. Hell she should have killed him inside the town when she had the chance. I've loved this comic to this point but this story line so far sucks. I hate the whole kidnap angle, especially kidnapped by such an obviously incompetent moron.
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Post by tzoram on May 29, 2013 14:46:52 GMT
Az moch az Hy hate dat de mistress haz been kidnapped, Hy am interested to see vhere dis leads. De veasel iz curious. Iz he upset because he vas caged, or iz dere anudder reason?
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Post by Dragon_Master on May 29, 2013 14:59:28 GMT
I hate this page, and this story line. IF she was sleep sparking why didn't she just kill him and escape? There's no way she should work with him. Hell she should have killed him inside the town when she had the chance. I've loved this comic to this point but this story line so far sucks. I hate the whole kidnap angle, especially kidnapped by such an obviously incompetent moron. First of all despite his appearance I think there is more to him than meets the eyes. But not even counting that why don't you give the Professors a chance to tell the storyline before passing judgement on it? Besides this is not the first time that things are not as they appear. And even if they are and Agatha did help him. You have to remember that Agatha is someone who would prefer not to kill unless it was absolutely necessary. If you recall Gil even commented that her initial breakthrough creation was rather benign. On a slightly different topic I am thinking there is more to Agatha's sleep building than what we have seen so far. If you recall Gil was fascinated by Agatha's sleep building back when they were on Castle Wulfenbach. He mentioned that she pretty much coasted through her breakthrough. Now obviously the locket played into that, but you must also remember that the lockets was never intended to be worn as long as it did. So who knows what kind of side effects could have been caused by wearing for so long.
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andyab1000
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Post by andyab1000 on May 29, 2013 16:04:57 GMT
Right now, they are holed up in a safe room because a group of Smoke Knights led by another nasty cousin tried to kill them both. Tweedle did say he was rescueing her and we don't know what Klaus did to Mechanicsburg. Tweedle earned no points from GG fans by knifing Tarvek and definately not from Agatha.
However, he isn't as incompetent a buffoon as he first appeared. At right now, they need each other to survive. He needs Agatha at several levels presently and she needs him as she has no real idea where she is and no idea who is friend or foe.
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weilyn
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Post by weilyn on May 29, 2013 17:20:54 GMT
I hate this page, and this story line. IF she was sleep sparking why didn't she just kill him and escape? There's no way she should work with him. Hell she should have killed him inside the town when she had the chance. I've loved this comic to this point but this story line so far sucks. I hate the whole kidnap angle, especially kidnapped by such an obviously incompetent moron. Incompetent? Incompetent!? Tweedle is terrifyingly competent. He allied himself with the abbess, thereby gaining an agent of the Storm King Conspiracy within Mechanicsburg itself. He secretly established a teleportative connection between the Red Cathedral and The Refuge of Storms. He took the precaution of building a secret laboratory, inside the secret stronghold itself. He introduced himself to the Heterodyne under a guise of harmless foppish stupidity, which everyone fell for (with the possible exception of Tarvek, though even he underestimates him). He led the detachment of Paladin Clanks against the Wulfenbach forces, presumably kicking a lot of donkey. He might have recognized the threat posed by the Baron's device, or he simply thought it provided him with a convenient diversion. In either case, the timing he chose for snatching up the Heterodyne, while at least eight of her friends and minions had their backs turned, was nothing but impeccable. He badly wounded the only one ahead of him in the line of succession for the title of The Storm King more or less effortlessly, while sprinting and carrying a quite uncooperative Agatha. (I don't think Tarvek is in any risk of actually dying, but that's mainly due to his Plot Armour.) He managed to rescue both himself and Agatha from whatever happened in Mechanicsburg He rescued Agatha again from six Smoke Knights and a conspirateur using only lightning reflexes and singlehanded badassery. There are a great deal of adjectives that can properly describe Tweedle, but incompetent most certainly isn't one of them. Also, he looks damn cool in the last panel. Also also, glad to be part of the forum.
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Post by Sturzkampf on May 29, 2013 17:26:13 GMT
Hyu schure dot vas vater? De bottle next to Tveedle haz sumtink else written on it. Gra.. Spirit. Seeink vat coffee did, hy hope dot iz not alcohol or vurse.
Chust hope de Mistress haz a remote control for dot hand. Dot vud be funny - for us.
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Herdthinner
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Post by Herdthinner on May 29, 2013 18:36:44 GMT
Velcome aboard, Weilyn!
"5?"
Moveit #5 ? :-D
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tiffanyhm
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Post by tiffanyhm on May 29, 2013 19:41:09 GMT
The only reason she was in danger is because of tweedle so no I don't like him I want him to freaking die along with the abess. THEY NEVER should have had her leave mechansiburg we spend the entire story line of her taking it over, and then this crap happens no it's bad writing. I've loved the series to this point but this plot line sucks hard, there's no way tweedle is that good, and there's no reason as to why he should have been able to take agetha inside her own freaking town. I'd rather see agatha with mechanisburg behind her than this crap.
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cjvr
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Post by cjvr on May 29, 2013 19:46:58 GMT
The story needs to resolve the Mechanicsburg issue without destroying the Empire in the process. That is probably the reason for this particular angle.
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Post by andyab1000 on May 29, 2013 20:51:16 GMT
tiffanyhm - I take it you are a new Girl Genius fan. You have just ripped through the archives and now came up against this. One...page...Monday...Wednesday...Friday. The plot goes drip...drip...drip.
A not uncommon reaction. All of us have done roughly the same. Back when Tikktoffen interrupted Agatha from repairing the last break in the castle, I lost it on a fan site - and got chewed out by one of the Foglios assistants. For trying to tell the authors how to write their own story.
The authors have a plot line they want to tell. Klaus, in his blind pursuit of the Other, has done something to Mechanisburg that has cut it off from the rest of the world. Agatha has escaped that, unwillingly.
There's something about the Heterodyne (not just the fairy tale opera story) that is important to the control of Europa. I'm hoping that this latest thread, with Agatha and Tweedle hiding in a safe room, will offer some explanation about that. She has got to ask him why she is where she is , why did he do this? Why is she so important? Krosp pointed out early on that everyone would either follow her, try to control her, or try to kill her. That certainly has been happening. Maybe we will get some answer as to why.
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weilyn
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Post by weilyn on May 29, 2013 20:52:39 GMT
Velcome aboard, Weilyn! "5?" Moveit #5 ? :-D Thank you, madame! I've been following this forum for the last year, but I wasn't spurred to join in on the discussions until I saw Tiffanyhm's comment. The only reason she was in danger is because of tweedle so no I don't like him I want him to freaking die along with the abess. THEY NEVER should have had her leave mechansiburg we spend the entire story line of her taking it over, and then this crap happens no it's bad writing. I've loved the series to this point but this plot line sucks hard, there's no way tweedle is that good, and there's no reason as to why he should have been able to take agetha inside her own freaking town. I'd rather see agatha with mechanisburg behind her than this crap. Well, yes. The Smoke Knights would not have attacked her if Tweedle had not taken her to The Refuge of Storms. But one can also argue that she would have been in even greater peril had she stayed in Mechanicsburg. Now, I would guess that the reason the Professors took Mechanicsburg from her (and, presumably, from us) is that the story must go somewhere, both figuratively and geographically. Honestly, we've been treated to Mechanicsburg for the last couple of years. Were Agatha to stay in the town, with the Castle and all its might behind her, then I fail to see how the story could progress in any interesting manner. With the Baron under Lucrezia's command he would continue to try to eradicate Mechanicsburg, and the siege that we have seen for eighteen months would perpetuate itself until the characters die of old age. No new environments, no new views of this fascinating world, just an endless war of attrition between the forces of Europa and the walls of Mechanicsburg. I would guess that the current events mark the beginning of a new direction for the story, and I, personally, am all for it. If you consider them to be the products of poor writing, then you are of course entitled to your opinion, and I do understand from where your frustration stems. The story needs to resolve the Mechanicsburg issue without destroying the Empire in the process. That is probably the reason for this particular angle. Indeed.
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tiffanyhm
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Post by tiffanyhm on May 29, 2013 21:33:16 GMT
NOT THE WAY THEY DID IT. Agatha is too good and has too many powerful friends for her to be FREAKING KIDNAPPED!! I hate hate the heroine getting kidnapped bit it annoys me to no end and sucks every bloody time. I'd have rather seen her rebuild the defenses then go off on her own rather than be kidnapped by a neadertahl with a fugly face and shabby facial hair. Tweedel should have died, this whole line of her being kidnapped is just retarded. As if she can't defend herself... We've already seen her as a prisoner before thank you we don't need it again.
Also the empire fragmenting and them picking up the pieces would be a better story line than agetha being freaking kidnapped by the second rate, neaderthal cousin of strumhaven. Also if she does wind up working with him I'll be pissed off he's an evil SOB who was trying to take her town and the empire he's amoral vicious and evil there is not a single good quality about him, if she works willingly with him i will abandon this comic.
I love this series it's the best steam punk i've seen anywhere BUT I hate heroines being kidnapped, and hate that whole evil people winding up good shtick that's been over used. They've already done that with strumhaven having his idiot cousin also turn out to be a good guy would be too much.
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