Dagrun
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Post by Dagrun on Oct 13, 2014 20:19:52 GMT
But bear könig said 'her'! Zo, probably not Krosp.
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andyab1000
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Post by andyab1000 on Oct 13, 2014 20:31:10 GMT
Dimo's smile in panel 3... be still, my heart. Dimo looks rather *naked* without his chapeau. Ahem! As far as the Master is concerned. I would think that the bears would be able to pull the smell of Female (Mistress) from the hat (and Dimo, for that matter). I'd be willing to bet the best plume off my favorite hat that Dr. Dimitri Vapnoodle is the Creator of the bears. But who is the Master? Yeah, IF she is "in season", if you'll pardon the expression. The king bear is responding to Dimo's statement about "the Mistress". Dr. Vapnoople IS their creator - your plume is safe. The Master is Krosp, who jumped on Dimo's head when Agatha fired the rail gun in their direction and then shouted a warning. This illogical sequence was done by the Foglio's so that Krosp would jump on Dimo's head. Then the Swartzwalders could smell him. Storytelling sometimes does these convolutions.
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Post by weaver on Oct 13, 2014 22:16:11 GMT
But bear könig said 'her'! Zo, probably not Krosp. He only said 'her' after Dimo did in reference to Agatha. Prior to that no pronouns were used and the word 'master' is usually used in reference to a male. He just sort of assumed that he and Dimo are talking about the same person, which may turn out to be a major (and possibly hilarious) misunderstanding. Odds are that the bears have no clue who their Master is beyond 'the person who is in charge smells like this' and 'they were on Castle Wulfenbach'. Of course, unless the comment about Krosp looking like/being derived from a breed that's known for turning on you is foreshadowing (and I wouldn't put it past the Foglios), the bears following Krosp would still align them with Agatha's side.
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Post by Tarlok on Oct 13, 2014 23:43:33 GMT
Of course, unless the comment about Krosp looking like/being derived from a breed that's known for turning on you is foreshadowing (and I wouldn't put it past the Foglios), the bears following Krosp would still align them with Agatha's side. If Krosp iz de Mashter it's possible de Foglios could play a bit vit de sayink dot power corropts. Bot ve know dot Krosp really isn't all dot brave, zo Hy'd say it's fairly certain dot even if he vould turn on de mishtress it vill be a very brief rebellion. Once de problems shtart to pile op he realize dot to survive he vill hef to align himself to a faction, und for him Agatha iz by far de safesht. Vulfenbach vould never allow him to keep control over hiz forces. De Shturmvoraus vould hef him assassinated. De Odder... No! Und de resht are rabble vit no real chance to take control over Europe.
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Post by weaver on Oct 14, 2014 0:14:27 GMT
All true. Plus, in Krosp's world Agatha is his vassel (due to him taking her self-pitying "oh, good. I can serve the king of cats" comment seriously) so odds are that as far as he's concerned she's aligned with him (fairly typical for a cat really).
Heh, given his feelings about the Emperor of all Cats thing (namely that "it was a moronic idea") methinks that he'll be a very happy kitty if/when he finds out that he has an army of uplifted bears at his command. On a somewhat related note, was the Emperor of All Cats thing a cover or is it just one of his titles (eg, "Emperor of All Cats and Overking of the Swartzwalders" or something like that)?
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Post by ecchikitty on Oct 14, 2014 1:06:38 GMT
Hy am not certain is Krosp. Da pieces make sense, vit leaves me suspicious. Master is meybe Higgs? Though den scent not be strictly on hat.
Vait, who did Demo vin his hat from?? Do ve know?
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Post by andyab1000 on Oct 14, 2014 1:23:11 GMT
I was reminded on another site that the first novel has Dr. Vapnoople telling Krosp his army of bears will defeat Klaus and Krosp is to lead them to glory. First imterpretation is that demented Dr. Vapnoople is talking about his rag bears. Apparently, he wasn't.
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Post by tzoram on Oct 14, 2014 2:58:19 GMT
*ding *ding *ding Hy tink ve might haff a vinner!
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Post by Herdthinner on Oct 14, 2014 3:31:57 GMT
No. Iz ronner-op to Weilyn
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Post by Herdthinner on Oct 14, 2014 3:34:35 GMT
Hy iz qviet becoz hy kennot brain today. Hy haff de dumb.
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So... effryvun gets an avard! Komm collect de, ah, rock ofer dere, und sum lint in my pockets, und ah... Oh! Dere iz crumbs in dis cracker bag! Hyu iz all vinners today!!
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Post by iamnotreallyhere on Oct 14, 2014 19:25:59 GMT
I can't believe this has yet to have been said but here it goes. These are smarter than your average bears = P But I have to wonder if this isn't some kind of ploy to get to Agatha through clever bearlike deception.
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Post by jsstryker on Oct 14, 2014 23:52:50 GMT
Hy vait vit bated breath (Hy gotta qvit eatink sardines!) to zee how dis particular sub-arc plays out.
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Post by notaperson on Oct 15, 2014 21:14:25 GMT
OW Ow Ow... hy chust hed a schmott guy moment... konig is vearink a chain mit a crown on it... hy tink dot Koenig is supposed to give it to his master.... hy heff to agree dot Krosp is da most likely kendidate.
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Dagrun
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Post by Dagrun on Oct 16, 2014 2:30:24 GMT
Hy am beginink to agree.
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