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Post by geekhyena on Sept 14, 2011 13:57:29 GMT
I'm not anti-gay, I'm bothered by how fast some fans tag a character as gay with the slightest evidence. ..... Tarvek strikes me as a Victorian Gentleman. He is of a different time. He reads poetry to his ladies to woo them. Metro-sexual is really a very modern term. "Dandy" or even "Fop" might be more era appropriate. But he is all male in his orientation. I got ticked off when Violetta grabbed Agatha when the Castle dumped the cistern on them and, on other sites, males were talking about "girl-on-girl action" and "Violetta has eyes for Agatha". The joke was on Tarvek and Gil who barely saved themselves. It's not about clearly acknowledged gay or straight characters. It's about reading into them what they are clearly not. Ah. Your point is much clearer, then. I'll admit, I had a brief femslashy thought when Violetta grabbed Agatha, but my brain skews that way anyway (the Foglios are so equal-opportunity with their eye candy, it makes me glad to be bi). But Agatha is probably mostly straight, and we don't know anything about who Violetta might find attractive, so it's a moot point. I don't like it when people will use stereotypical definitions to tag someone as gay or not. It really reinforces the idea that gay characters are just that....that it's their defining characteristic instead of being part of a well-rounded character. So we're in agreement there. Thanks for clarifying.
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Post by tzoram on Sept 14, 2011 15:23:20 GMT
Ektually, Hy tink ve DO know some about Violetta. If she vasn't attracted to Von Zinzer, Hy doubt she vould haff been so distressed vhen Snaug announced her intent to persue him. Look, Hy never meant to offend anyvone here, but vhy isn't it more offensive for others to be guessing that he's 100% straight than for me to be guessing he might <----(important word) have bi inclinations? Hy mean this seriously. Hy vasn't assuming he vas gay. My statement vas "Hy'm beginnink to tink dey iz both in denial about Tarvek's sexuual orientation." Other's ARE assuming he's 100% straight vhen dey dun't know dat. He sure az heck haz given more indications dan say... Dumbledore. And for de record, Hy schtill dun't really tink he's gay or even bi! BUT, if he vas, it schtill vouldn't change my opinion uv him at all. Hy vould schtill like Tarvek, and Hy vould schtill prefer Gil to get de gorl.
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Post by Huntress on Sept 14, 2011 22:39:19 GMT
People read their own interests into the characters. Phil's characters can be oh, so easy on the eyes. Certainly anyone who's familiar with Phil's earlier works is going to possibly have a skewed vision of his current work. And he seems to be very happy to create a little fetish fuel - Tarvek's backscratcher comes happily to mind, although not canon.
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Post by geekhyena on Sept 16, 2011 0:29:07 GMT
I think Phil likes creating fetish fuel. He does have a "gentleman pornographer" badge, after all. I'm just waiting for Xxxenophile: Girl Genius edition!
Tzoram, you do have a point re: Violetta. (though personally I ship her and Van). As for Tarvek's sexuality....it doesn't really make a difference to me, nor does speculation about his or anyone's gender identity. I was just reacting to the idea that certain stereotypical characteristics = gay/lesbian in some people's eyes (which does bring out the LGBT activist in me, sorry).
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Post by tzoram on Sept 16, 2011 2:47:13 GMT
Xxxenophile: Girl Genius edition... Hy've gots to be honest. It better never happen, 'coz Hy vould be vaaay too in to dat. Hy spent significantly more time dan Hy should haff starink at dis page: www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090610 Put a copy uv Xxxenophile: Girl Genius edition in front of me, und Hy vould go into a coma! (And hyu though de last conversation vas uncomfortable... sorry!)
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Post by Huntress on Sept 17, 2011 2:10:40 GMT
Tzoram, did you get a copy of the Not Safe for the Lab sketch book? I believe it's sold out.
I've been informed by one of the office minions that due to GG deals with other companies, Phil can't really take the art past a PG-13 rating.
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Post by tzoram on Sept 17, 2011 3:07:48 GMT
Nope. Hy missed dat vun. Ken Hy borrow yours? Hy promise to return it in as goot condition as Hy gots it!
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Post by Huntress on Sept 17, 2011 14:17:43 GMT
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Post by geekhyena on Sept 17, 2011 19:14:52 GMT
Tzoram, did you get a copy of the Not Safe for the Lab sketch book? I believe it's sold out. I've been informed by one of the office minions that due to GG deals with other companies, Phil can't really take the art past a PG-13 rating. Really? Why not? They own the rights to Girl Genius...I mean, after the conclusion of the series, and in something separate from the comic itself, why not?
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Post by Huntress on Sept 17, 2011 19:54:00 GMT
That's all I've been told. Something contractual, most likely.
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Post by cjvr on Sept 19, 2011 11:53:35 GMT
I've been informed by one of the office minions that due to GG deals with other companies, Phil can't really take the art past a PG-13 rating. Too bad, although I think he would like to considering all the dancing on the edge he does... I have spotted a few on the web. A pair of Bang 'wearing' something barely noticable. Jäger Zeetha. Snaug 'using' the mechanical squid.
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Post by Huntress on Sept 19, 2011 20:16:29 GMT
I've got a presumably nude Tarvek tapping a riding crop into his hand. And a nude of Maxim (except for the nipple ring), dipping dangerously into southern territory. So low that Photo Bucket kicked it off, although no bits & pieces are showing.
I do love that Phil's an equal opportunity fan service provider.
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Post by geekhyena on Sept 19, 2011 20:27:39 GMT
I've been informed by one of the office minions that due to GG deals with other companies, Phil can't really take the art past a PG-13 rating. Too bad, although I think he would like to considering all the dancing on the edge he does... I have spotted a few on the web. A pair of Bang 'wearing' something barely noticable. Jäger Zeetha. Snaug 'using' the mechanical squid. I've seen the Jagerzeetha one, but where did you find the other two? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Post by tzoram on Sept 19, 2011 23:43:32 GMT
My favorite vas Zeetha und Agatha in deir skivies!
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Post by cjvr on Sept 20, 2011 12:49:42 GMT
Too bad, although I think he would like to considering all the dancing on the edge he does... I have spotted a few on the web. A pair of Bang 'wearing' something barely noticable. Jäger Zeetha. Snaug 'using' the mechanical squid. I've seen the Jagerzeetha one, but where did you find the other two? Inquiring minds want to know! Well the Snaug one is still up on ebay... www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Foglio-girlgenius-net-Bookplate-Original-Art-Snaug-001-/220802842877As for the Bangladesh ones I think one is from ebay and the otherone from somewhere else on the web. If you message me an e-mail adress I will send you a copy
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